from sinn in the attraction forums dot com
I've been on a bunch of the forums lately, and I've noticed a trend. A bunch of guys who are very new to the avenue of tactical seduction, have been posting questions asking about advanced techniques from " The October Man Sequence" to some very high level inner game stuff.
Seeing this makes me depressed for them
They are caught in the ball of hype that says that you can attract and date the most attractive women even if you are smelly, ugly, socially awkward, introverted and shy. All you need is this magic tool or trick or routine. And that's simply not the way the world works. You can't be a lame guy and just learn a bunch of tips and tricks. furthermore you can't be socially incompetent and then apply a thin veneer of game on top of that. You need to fix these issues before you even start thinking about learning some advanced shit.
When I think about the fundamentals, I think about the following.
Grooming, fashion, and maximizing your natural looks. This one is easy. You don't need a ton of money( check out second hand stores like Buffalo exchange) but you do need to have clothes that are in style NOW. Not 5 years ago when you were last single. Not clothes you are holding onto from college, etc.. You also need to take care of yourself. I recommend hitting the gym at least 4 times a week. It will boost your self esteem and make you have more energy etc.. Get a nice haircut, you can always have your barber copy it for cheaper if you take pics. Bathe and get a good deodorant/cologne combo so you smell nice. Simple stuff not enough guys do before bootcamp. Hell even experiment with one of those over the counter teeth whitening kits.
Eye contact- If you can't make eye contact you can't play. If you need to, go to a strip club and sit in pervert's alley( the front row of the stage where you have to tip) and focus strictly on holding EC with the naked hottie.
Vocal projection- This is HUGE. NO student is EVER loud enough.EVER. Do a quick search online for vocal projection exercises. Practice this. Hell start singing kareoke if need be.
Tonality- Practice speaking until you have a wide range of tonality that can convey emotion. Don't be like Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Basic conversational skills- Can you have a normal conversation with someone where they walk away thinking you are normal? Or do you need to cling to routines, cocky/funny, patterns etc.. You need to be able to have a pleasant conversation with anyone anywhere simply by observing social norms and not doing things that are creepy, needy or boring.
Leading the interaction- I don't even mean frame control at this point I mean being able to make decisions quickly. Not hemming and hawing around on what to eat, order, or sit.
Body language- Spend some time in a mirror to eliminate any ticks or weird stuff you may do unconsciously.
Fixing that stuff alone should help most guys who have their shit together 500%. Then you can add some gamey elements, like learning to tease, touch, tell stories etc...
But the point is all of us came here for a reason. You have to destroy and rebuild, not simply slap a layer of external technique on a lifetime of bad habits.
Sunday, January 11, 2009
Wednesday, January 7, 2009
I Know i have been slacking on the blog but...
i HAD to post this it is by RENZ from AP-SEDUCTION.com the premier high school PUA website but RENZ wrote
Class is in session, and before I begin I’d like to thank Gay for allowing me to post this information, he essentially helped me, help you :P. I wanna start off by saying that this will be a compliation of what I’ve learned and witnessed over the years in a classroom setting. I think anyone from complete novice, to proclaimed-professional-PUA can benefit, and if not, well, it already reinforces what you know.
Note - The classroom is one of the most funamental places for the school aged PUA (Middle - High - College) and should never be taken for granted. People overlook this wonderful opportunity to get with women.
Note 2 - Class game gives you a more extended opportunity. Unlike a mall where you have to haul ass to build comfort and get her number and hope she doesn’t flake, in a classroom you have a longer period of time and you will always have a tomorrow. Don’t take it too seriously though, if you take too long she may have second thoughts about you.
Step one - Scan the room, identify your target and her friends. In a worse case scenario your target is a single girl in the center of a bunch of AMOGs. Or Jocks. In this case you will need to become good buddies with them before picking off your target. With any guy, stay cool, collected and once again, better than them. Play vibes, Tyler Durden has a good guide on generally being a cool person. http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/skills/social-vibing.html
Step two - Approach. A good PUA will only wait a maximum of 3 seconds before walking up to a female. A classroom, buys you time, despite this you should never get used to the idea of pondering your approach. You may use last night’s homerwork or school related jazz as an opener, however I do not reccomend it. Most girl’s HATE school, so you’re only associating yourself, use a fun and non-school related conversation starter. If she’s with her friends, spread the conversation to all of them. Here are a few good critical times to approach.
-After a test or daily work - Best case scenario, she is staring off into space, or peeking glances at you. If you sit next to her, this area is easy, if she doesn’t you can always stand up to sharpen your pencil and give a cute, justified opener.
-Before Class - She walks in, sits down, the first person to talk to her will keep her occupied until class is in session. This small chat period will break you in.
-After Class - As you walk out of the door, you can often catch girls who sit on the other side of the room with a quick and fun opener as she steps out of the door. You will most likely only talk for the brief moment in the hallway, but it breaks the ice and she now has a little comfort around you.
-(During class) - If she sits right next to you, you’ve got your opener in the bag. Its all easy pickin’s and you are one lucky fox! Make sure to limit the amount of times you talk with her.
*Be the one to make up the excuse to leave.*
Step Three - Midgame - Now that you’ve approached, let the small talk commence. If you don’t have anything to talk about, talk about yourself, just keep the god damn conversation moving. Your number ONE goal is to make her talk. Once she starts pouring out and you relate with her, its all fun and games. (Optional: An extra light neg at the beginning.)
I will often tell riddles and corny, funny jokes in the situation that my attention has begun to die. You can also play games and do magic tricks.
Kino, as you talk with her, lightly tap her on the shoulder, For extra effect, do it whenever you say something funny and make her laugh. Kino is your number one defense against the friendzone
Step Four - Number - Get the number. Your best bet is to have her suggest giving it to you, but if need-be you can ask once you feel she’s comfortable around you. Do not make a big deal about it. You will be able to successfully pull numbers around your second time chatting with her.
Final Side notes- Girl asks you to do her work, push it back at her and say something funny like “I don’t think so missy, I work alone.”
If you’re partners on a project or a lab, you pretty much broke your need for an opener.
If its a take-home project and you have to go to her house or vice-versa, I’m sure you’re thinking that you’re going to bang the poody out of her, well, all I can say is good luck and you’re going to need some experience with attraction first. Don’t expect to get laid.
Shit tests in high school are rare, but they do happen. I was caught off gaurd twice, I will say they’re definitely not my specialty yet!
*I will go into Texting and Calling game next ;). However this is a quick basics to Picking up in a classroom.*
Class is in session, and before I begin I’d like to thank Gay for allowing me to post this information, he essentially helped me, help you :P. I wanna start off by saying that this will be a compliation of what I’ve learned and witnessed over the years in a classroom setting. I think anyone from complete novice, to proclaimed-professional-PUA can benefit, and if not, well, it already reinforces what you know.
Note - The classroom is one of the most funamental places for the school aged PUA (Middle - High - College) and should never be taken for granted. People overlook this wonderful opportunity to get with women.
Note 2 - Class game gives you a more extended opportunity. Unlike a mall where you have to haul ass to build comfort and get her number and hope she doesn’t flake, in a classroom you have a longer period of time and you will always have a tomorrow. Don’t take it too seriously though, if you take too long she may have second thoughts about you.
Step one - Scan the room, identify your target and her friends. In a worse case scenario your target is a single girl in the center of a bunch of AMOGs. Or Jocks. In this case you will need to become good buddies with them before picking off your target. With any guy, stay cool, collected and once again, better than them. Play vibes, Tyler Durden has a good guide on generally being a cool person. http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/skills/social-vibing.html
Step two - Approach. A good PUA will only wait a maximum of 3 seconds before walking up to a female. A classroom, buys you time, despite this you should never get used to the idea of pondering your approach. You may use last night’s homerwork or school related jazz as an opener, however I do not reccomend it. Most girl’s HATE school, so you’re only associating yourself, use a fun and non-school related conversation starter. If she’s with her friends, spread the conversation to all of them. Here are a few good critical times to approach.
-After a test or daily work - Best case scenario, she is staring off into space, or peeking glances at you. If you sit next to her, this area is easy, if she doesn’t you can always stand up to sharpen your pencil and give a cute, justified opener.
-Before Class - She walks in, sits down, the first person to talk to her will keep her occupied until class is in session. This small chat period will break you in.
-After Class - As you walk out of the door, you can often catch girls who sit on the other side of the room with a quick and fun opener as she steps out of the door. You will most likely only talk for the brief moment in the hallway, but it breaks the ice and she now has a little comfort around you.
-(During class) - If she sits right next to you, you’ve got your opener in the bag. Its all easy pickin’s and you are one lucky fox! Make sure to limit the amount of times you talk with her.
*Be the one to make up the excuse to leave.*
Step Three - Midgame - Now that you’ve approached, let the small talk commence. If you don’t have anything to talk about, talk about yourself, just keep the god damn conversation moving. Your number ONE goal is to make her talk. Once she starts pouring out and you relate with her, its all fun and games. (Optional: An extra light neg at the beginning.)
I will often tell riddles and corny, funny jokes in the situation that my attention has begun to die. You can also play games and do magic tricks.
Kino, as you talk with her, lightly tap her on the shoulder, For extra effect, do it whenever you say something funny and make her laugh. Kino is your number one defense against the friendzone
Step Four - Number - Get the number. Your best bet is to have her suggest giving it to you, but if need-be you can ask once you feel she’s comfortable around you. Do not make a big deal about it. You will be able to successfully pull numbers around your second time chatting with her.
Final Side notes- Girl asks you to do her work, push it back at her and say something funny like “I don’t think so missy, I work alone.”
If you’re partners on a project or a lab, you pretty much broke your need for an opener.
If its a take-home project and you have to go to her house or vice-versa, I’m sure you’re thinking that you’re going to bang the poody out of her, well, all I can say is good luck and you’re going to need some experience with attraction first. Don’t expect to get laid.
Shit tests in high school are rare, but they do happen. I was caught off gaurd twice, I will say they’re definitely not my specialty yet!
*I will go into Texting and Calling game next ;). However this is a quick basics to Picking up in a classroom.*
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Who Am I Really?
Hi my name Carbon (i may have said that)
but im 17 and in high school in texas. i am a nerd who has always been looking to change and better myself but never found it. now i have found it since this is the first week of the year this is LITERALLY the best time to do it. this week my goal is to study and make a new friend (but that will come later so let me finish this) i am in the band at my school which doesnt look cool to other people. i am black but most say and/or think that i dont act like it. i do like my life but i know i can be much better. so please subscribe.
P.S i may add more to this later.....
but im 17 and in high school in texas. i am a nerd who has always been looking to change and better myself but never found it. now i have found it since this is the first week of the year this is LITERALLY the best time to do it. this week my goal is to study and make a new friend (but that will come later so let me finish this) i am in the band at my school which doesnt look cool to other people. i am black but most say and/or think that i dont act like it. i do like my life but i know i can be much better. so please subscribe.
P.S i may add more to this later.....
Monday, January 5, 2009
Who Am I?
Hi they call me Carbon...
this is my first post and please subscribe to help me out. Those of you who were able to find this are very privliged (not that im stuck up) but because i only told select people. i will post who i am tomorrow good by for now.
Carbon
this is my first post and please subscribe to help me out. Those of you who were able to find this are very privliged (not that im stuck up) but because i only told select people. i will post who i am tomorrow good by for now.
Carbon
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